No mention of lumens, but my expectation is that it won’t be more than 450 to 600 - and probably less. (I’m going to guess it’ll be around 300, but even that could be overly optimistic.) If the real output was even close to being in four digits, they’d be pimping it on the packaging and sales blurb. It’s H&B, what do you expect?
@Coldwyn@werehatrack I do like the ones that use 18650s. But definitely not the ones that are AAA only. For this, 3AAs is probably OK if you are keeping it around for an emergency light in a vehicle (as long as it doesn’t have residual drain from a circuit that depletes your batteries in storage). In general, the dumber the on/off switch, the better.
I’ve swapped almost all of my “emergency” lighting over to Ryobi. I bought the light tower a few years back, 2700 lumens, the thing runs for hours on high with a 4 ah battery, and almost a whole day on low. It’s kind of amazing how close in power the cheap homeowner tools have come to the actual “professional” level stuff. I’m still not going to get rid of my cheap flashlights, but I’m not going to buy any more.
@fuzzmanmatt I have a variety of Milwaukee M12, Ryobi 18V, some Ridgid, and I think a Makita. So yes, most likely a hoarder, according to my brother-in-law (who is just as impulsive about tool purchases as I am…)
@fuzzmanmatt@pmarin
I have addressed this in the forums in the past but yes I am also a huge Ryobi fanboy. They were the first company I saw that actually kept a battery format unchanged for years on end. I’ve been using their tools for probably 20 years and the new brushless stuff is amazing. The 40 volt line has tools that are definitely the equivalent of corded or gas powered items. For instance the electric chainsaw in the 40 volt line is incredible. I can’t remember the last time I yanked on a cord to start something…
@chienfou@fuzzmanmatt I gotta say I bought a big kit of blue-era Ryobi at HD (where else?) when I moved into a house 20 years ago and as far as I know they all still work. But honestly don’t use them much since newer tools are much better, lighter, stronger. Probably want to donate them but not sure if it would be for a tool-user or a museum.
Also loved the old Tek4 but sadly that was discontinued and replaced by a new not-compatible 4V line.
@chienfou@fuzzmanmatt@pmarin Most of my cordless stuff is Ryobi, but I splurged for the WMD-level new half inch DeWalt impact Just Because. I have now used it out on the road twice, breaking stuck lug nuts loose for people with a flat tire and a severely twisted factory lug wrench. It hasn’t needed to step up to Ludicrous Speed yet, and it’s brutal even without going there. It makes my old CP734 air impact look weak.
@Kidsandliz@troy And linking to QVC has a tendency to cause a good many people to head over to That Other Site to see if there’s anything worthwhile. HSN, same thing.
At first glance it just looks Cheesy and Cheap. Light output will most likely be Poo and the flashlight part’s smd will be of crap quality (individual segment’s will be seen) when focused.
Might be ok as an emergency light depending on how quickly it devours the 3 batteries.
This is one of those disposable products that you only use a few times because it just not that great. Then it ends up either in a yard/garage sale or in the junk bin.
Also I believe Bell & Howell no longer exists so the trade mark name is most likely licensed for name recognition. Like RCA and others.
@dahobbs9 The Bell&Howell name is owned by a company that does not service the consumer market, but they have licensed the folks who are selling these Bell+Howell things. Personally, I call them Hell&Bowell.
@dahobbs9 I do not believe diode segments being visible in the beam when focused is a sign of poor quality. I’ve got several lights where this is possible and none of them are crap.
Got ’em. They’re lightweight, but I wouldn’t call them compact; they’re chunkier than I expected. Plasticky. Creaky. The flashlight end is supposed to have the little round LED board (Cree) held in place with a plastic washer, but the washer was rattling around loose in both of mine, so I needed to remove the lens/focus assembly (the whole thing unscrews apart) and press the washers back in place with a little strip of tape added to the edge so they wouldn’t fall out again. Cheaply assembled.
That all being said, they throw a decent amount of bright white light, and the folding form factor does make them very handy to rest on a table or stick to a metal surface (or hang with the hook, plastic, I dunno) as a positionable floodlight.
Specs
Product: 2-Pack: Bell + Howell Butterfly Multi-Positional LED Work Lights
Model: 798488014
Condition: New
What’s Included?
Price Comparison
Google It
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, Apr 29 - Wednesday, May 1
Those are some ugly butterflies.
No mention of lumens, but my expectation is that it won’t be more than 450 to 600 - and probably less. (I’m going to guess it’ll be around 300, but even that could be overly optimistic.) If the real output was even close to being in four digits, they’d be pimping it on the packaging and sales blurb. It’s H&B, what do you expect?
@werehatrack I expect it to die, Mr. Bond.
Are these similar to those flashlights that use a 3 AAA battery holder that can be switched out with a 18650 battery?
@Coldwyn No.
@Coldwyn @werehatrack I do like the ones that use 18650s. But definitely not the ones that are AAA only. For this, 3AAs is probably OK if you are keeping it around for an emergency light in a vehicle (as long as it doesn’t have residual drain from a circuit that depletes your batteries in storage). In general, the dumber the on/off switch, the better.
@Coldwyn @pmarin
Judging from the format I would have to agree that it’ll be probably three layed flat in the back.
Which one’s Bell and which one’s Howell?
@awk Neither.
@awk
I’m always tempted to ask,
“Which one’s Ambercrombie and which one’s Fitch?”
/giphy tactical or nothing
I’ve swapped almost all of my “emergency” lighting over to Ryobi. I bought the light tower a few years back, 2700 lumens, the thing runs for hours on high with a 4 ah battery, and almost a whole day on low. It’s kind of amazing how close in power the cheap homeowner tools have come to the actual “professional” level stuff. I’m still not going to get rid of my cheap flashlights, but I’m not going to buy any more.
@fuzzmanmatt I have a variety of Milwaukee M12, Ryobi 18V, some Ridgid, and I think a Makita. So yes, most likely a hoarder, according to my brother-in-law (who is just as impulsive about tool purchases as I am…)
@pmarin TTI rules the garage!
@fuzzmanmatt @pmarin
I have addressed this in the forums in the past but yes I am also a huge Ryobi fanboy. They were the first company I saw that actually kept a battery format unchanged for years on end. I’ve been using their tools for probably 20 years and the new brushless stuff is amazing. The 40 volt line has tools that are definitely the equivalent of corded or gas powered items. For instance the electric chainsaw in the 40 volt line is incredible. I can’t remember the last time I yanked on a cord to start something…
@chienfou @fuzzmanmatt I gotta say I bought a big kit of blue-era Ryobi at HD (where else?) when I moved into a house 20 years ago and as far as I know they all still work. But honestly don’t use them much since newer tools are much better, lighter, stronger. Probably want to donate them but not sure if it would be for a tool-user or a museum.
Also loved the old Tek4 but sadly that was discontinued and replaced by a new not-compatible 4V line.
@fuzzmanmatt @pmarin
I love the fact that the newer Ryobi litium batteries still fit in the old blue era tools!
@chienfou @fuzzmanmatt @pmarin Most of my cordless stuff is Ryobi, but I splurged for the WMD-level new half inch DeWalt impact Just Because. I have now used it out on the road twice, breaking stuck lug nuts loose for people with a flat tire and a severely twisted factory lug wrench. It hasn’t needed to step up to Ludicrous Speed yet, and it’s brutal even without going there. It makes my old CP734 air impact look weak.
Wow! Look at all those selling points, ten to be exact. This must really be meh, or worse.
@hchavers Double Double Meh
@hchavers “Worse.”
/buy
@uvassassin It worked! Your order number is: tolerable-fervent-raccoon
/image tolerable fervent raccoon
@mediocrebot @uvassassin HUh?
Clearly Fred Evanger is a raccoon.
@haydesigner Rocket raccoon or Ricky raccoon
@dahobbs9 @haydesigner
Maybe raccoon was the primary protein source…
Google it??? You are lazy. Below showed up on page one of google.
So I did. These look the same Bell and Howell from QVC except red not yellow plastic. $10 more for 2, has a video on that page too.
https://www.qvc.com/bell-%26-howell-s2-butterfly-multi-position-magnetic-worklight.product.V46486.html
@Kidsandliz We can’t link to certain websites per agreement, so we have to do it that way. (The “google it” is linked, btw!)
@troy Didn’t know that. Sorry.
@Kidsandliz Thanks though
@Kidsandliz @troy And linking to QVC has a tendency to cause a good many people to head over to That Other Site to see if there’s anything worthwhile. HSN, same thing.
At first glance it just looks Cheesy and Cheap. Light output will most likely be Poo and the flashlight part’s smd will be of crap quality (individual segment’s will be seen) when focused.
Might be ok as an emergency light depending on how quickly it devours the 3 batteries.
This is one of those disposable products that you only use a few times because it just not that great. Then it ends up either in a yard/garage sale or in the junk bin.
Also I believe Bell & Howell no longer exists so the trade mark name is most likely licensed for name recognition. Like RCA and others.
PASS… until they’re 2 for $10
@dahobbs9 The Bell&Howell name is owned by a company that does not service the consumer market, but they have licensed the folks who are selling these Bell+Howell things. Personally, I call them Hell&Bowell.
@dahobbs9 @werehatrack Like when I saw Nakamichi earbuds (looked like dollar-store quality) for sale a while ago.
@dahobbs9 I do not believe diode segments being visible in the beam when focused is a sign of poor quality. I’ve got several lights where this is possible and none of them are crap.
When I read first part of the write-up, I couldn’t help thinking:
Murray?
present
/image Murray present meme
/buy
@akumax It worked! Your order number is: warlike-sweet-shandy
/image warlike sweet shandy
One doesn’t work…
@remail Report the problem to meh.com/support for assistance. They are pretty responsive.
Got ’em. They’re lightweight, but I wouldn’t call them compact; they’re chunkier than I expected. Plasticky. Creaky. The flashlight end is supposed to have the little round LED board (Cree) held in place with a plastic washer, but the washer was rattling around loose in both of mine, so I needed to remove the lens/focus assembly (the whole thing unscrews apart) and press the washers back in place with a little strip of tape added to the edge so they wouldn’t fall out again. Cheaply assembled.
That all being said, they throw a decent amount of bright white light, and the folding form factor does make them very handy to rest on a table or stick to a metal surface (or hang with the hook, plastic, I dunno) as a positionable floodlight.